Play Their Way Podcast
Dive into child-first coaching with The Play Their Way Podcast! If you're a coach passionate about young lives, this is for you.
Join Laura-Jane Jones as she explores the core of coaching children and young people: voice, choice, and journey.
Expert guests share their top coaching strategies, best practices, and philosophies focused on children's unique paths. Tune in and delve into how to empower their individual voice, respect their choices, and guide their journeys, cultivating a deep passion for sport and physical activity, while helping them reach their full potential.
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Season 2
- Episode 6: "If we have to shout instructions from the sidelines, I’d say we’ve failed as a coachs" - Dr Alex Twitchen on why ‘voice, choice and journey’ are more than buzzwords in sport
- Episode 7: "If you measure smiles, engagement and movement, you'll coach differently for the rest of your life" - Jack Rolfe on the transformative impact of child-first coaching in sport
- Episode 8: "Shoving all this pressure on a young child is not helpful at all" - Scarlett Dewar on finding her voice as an athlete and a person
- Episode 9: "If you only talk about trophies, you're alienating the majority of kids" - Eamonn Newell on building an inclusive football club
- Episode 10: "Our job as coaches is to create places where people belong" - Russell 'Rusty' Earnshaw on helping young people help themselves
Episode 1
"If we adopt this approach, we’ll reap the rewards for years" - Pete Sturgess on the powerful legacy of child-first coaching
Reflect on a lifetime of coaching, and how Pete’s coaching philosophy evolved over the years to focus squarely on children’s voices, rights and experiences in sport.
Pete shares the pivotal moments which changed his coaching philosophy, the highlights of a legendary career at the Football Association and beyond, and why he believes that child-first coaching leaves a legacy spanning entire lifetimes.
If you’re a coach looking to build a meaningful career like Pete, this episode is for you.
On the first ever International Day of Play - and every day – let’s #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 2
“If you don’t listen to the kids, you might be the reason they stop doing what brings them joy” - Ryan Miskovics on youth voice and coaching with a disability
Sit down for a chat with host Laura-Jane Jones and Ryan Miskovics, a brilliant young coach and disability advocate.
Ryan shares his lived experiences of being a young disabled athlete, his journey into coaching and why listening to young people should be at the heart of your sessions. This episode provides plenty of food for thought for any coach seeking to be more inclusive and child-first in their practice.
If you’re wondering how to #PlayTheirWay for every child, this episode is for you!
Episode 3
“You can see them shrinking into their shells” - Professor Adam Nicholls on the impact of negative coaching behaviours
Professor Nicholls is a leading voice in sports psychology, having published over 90 papers and written four books, including Psychology for Coaches: Theory and Practice. In this week’s episode, we discuss the psychology behind sports coaching, why child-first coaching is important for children’s physical and mental health, as well as Professor Nicholls’ first-hand experience of the impact of negative coaching behaviours.
If you’re looking to uncover the psychology behind child-first coaching, this episode is for you.
Episode 4
It's like giving back to our younger selves" - Siham and Sagal Abdullahi on creating safe spaces
in sport
Siham and Sagal are the founders of Barakah LDN, a grassroots community space for women and girls to play football for free every Saturday in Fulham. These sisters reflect on their experiences from growing up loving football, to feeling excluded and dropping out, to coming full circle to create a new inclusive space for Muslim girls in their community to play football.
We can’t #PlayTheirWay unless every child is included. If you're a coach who wants to learn how to decrease the barriers facing girls from ethnic minority backgrounds in sport, this is for you.
Episode 5
“Sport is one of the only areas in society where children can develop themselves as leaders” – Rashan McDonald on sport as a vehicle for advocacy
Rashan is a Sport for Good Development Manager for StreetGames, which are one of 17 partners which make up the Children’s Coaching Collaborative, the driving force behind the Play Their Way movement. Rashan’s passion for youth advocacy in sport was borne out of the encouragement and leadership opportunities he himself received at a young age from the TNG Youth and Community Centre.
If you’re a coach looking to uplift the next generation to #PlayTheirWay, this episode is for you!
Episode 6
“If we have to shout instructions from the sidelines, I’d say we’ve failed as a coach” – Dr Alex Twitchen on why ‘voice, choice and journey’ are more than buzzwords
Dr Alex Twitchen is Senior Lecturer in Sport Coaching Practice and Learning at the Open University, and has worked alongside FIFA, UNICEF and our team at Play Their Way on embedding children’s rights in practice.
If you’re a coach looking to embed child-first coaching theory into practice, this is for you!
Episode 7
"If you measure smiles, engagement and movement, you'll coach differently for the rest of your life" - Jack Rolfe on the transformative impact of child-first coaching
Jack discusses his personal journey which led him to develop his 'dyslexia-proof' matchplay cards which are often image-based and easy for children to understand, adapt and run with.
If you’re a coach looking to expand the ways you engage with the children you coach, this episode is for you!
Episode 8
"Shoving all this pressure on a young child is not helpful at all" - Scarlett Dewar on finding her voice as an athlete and a person
Scarlett joins the Play Their Way podcast ‘crew’ (excuse the pun!) to talk about her journey in the sport, the lessons she’s learnt along the way and the challenges she has faced, including her experiences with relative energy deficiency in sport (REDs).
If you’re a coach who wants to learn more about REDs and is up for an inspiring and thought-provoking listen, then this episode is for you.
Episode 9
"If you only talk about trophies, you're alienating the majority of kids" - Eamonn Newell on building an inclusive football club for girls and women
This week, we speak to Twickenham Swans and Signets FC Chairman and Founder, Eamonn Newell, about how their club’s inspirational journey from using jumpers for goalposts to taking over Wembley Stadium with 400 Swans members! Eamonn talks about how his own daughter’s interest in football sparked the idea to build a girls’ football team based on the values of inclusivity and child-first practice. Their website reads: “Never played before? Now's you chance. Used to play? Welcome back. Just keen to know more about the game your child may play? That's great too. Twickenham Swans FC is open to everyone with no age limits.”
If you want to be inspired by the impact child-first coaching can have on an entire community, this episode is for you.
Episode 10
"Our job as coaches is to create places where people belong" - Russell 'Rusty' Earnshaw on helping young people help themselves
Rusty is a Rugby coach and Founder of the Magic Academy, and says his favourite feedback he's received is, 'I like Russell Earnshaw, he treads a fine line between genius and nutcase.’ In this episode, we talk about why Rusty is so passionate about child-first coaching, how humour can help deliver a message and how young people will challenge themselves more when they're in charge of the challenge.
If you want to reflect on what 'stick' and 'carrot' really mean, this episode is for you
Season 1
- Episode 1: "We play sport, we don't sport sports" - Eugene Minogue on the danger of 'sportising' children
- Episode 2: "Do not put what you think sport should look like on young people” – Danielle 'Nolli' Waterman on preserving the essence of child-driven play
- Episode 3: "Children will always surprise you" – Professor Laura Lundy on the unparalleled insights of young voices.
- Episode 4: "For 99% of kids, it's not about helping them become an athlete, but a better person" – Nick Levett on leaving a lasting impact.
- Episode 5: "One of the kids asked for more crocodiles in the session" – Sion Kitson on embracing children’s creativity in sport
- Episode 6: "Young people are the experts in our own needs" – Jemima Browning on truly inclusive coaching
- Episode 7: "Being kind isn’t a soft thing kindness has teeth" – Justyn Price on community in coaching
- Episode 8: "It's about giving young people free time, so they can just breathe" – Michael Pusey MBE (CK Flash) on the importance of free play in sporting environments
- Episode 9: "All the best games are designed by children" – David Baird on the innovation of co-creation
- Episode 10: "I have this alternate life where I see myself as an athlete" – Zoya Zia on why representation and intersectionality matter in child-first coaching
- Episode 11: "If you just guess what a young person needs, it can have a devastating impact" – Poppy and Samuela from UNICEF UK’s Youth Board on the value of young voices
- Episode 12: "Play can be a dirty word – Stuart Armstrong on perceptions of play and the creation of the Children’s Coaching Collaborative
- Episode 13: "Now I’ve got 100 voices coming at me, and it’s beautiful” – Nicky Harverson on helping young people find their own voices in sport
- Episode 14: "You don't want to know what I think” – League Leaders on making sure young people are truly heard in sport
- Episode 15: "If all they need is to talk, that's what we're here for” - Luke Carpenter on why holistic coaching is key to playing their way
Episode 1
"We play sport, we don't sport sports" - Eugene Minogue on the danger of 'sportising' children
Dive deep into the shift in play culture over generations and discover as a coach how you can champion free play.
From his days at Parkour UK to his impactful leadership at Play England, Eugene shares invaluable insights on nurturing children and young people’s love for sport and physical activity, and how YOU can be the change.
Tune in, inspire, and let children #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 2
"Do not put what you think sport should look like on young people” – Danielle 'Nolli' Waterman on preserving the essence of child-driven play
Danielle 'Nolli' Waterman, an icon of England Rugby, invites listeners on a nostalgic journey back to the essence of child-driven play.
Reflecting on her own childhood, the guidance of pivotal mentors, her storied sporting journey, and coaching experiences, Nolli emphasises the profound role of free play, exploration, and creativity. Chatting with host Laura-Jane Jones, delve into the lessons and memories that shaped Nolli's unique perspective. Listen as this seasoned player-turned-coach unveils insights on nurturing natural passion in young people and guiding them to authentically #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 3
"Children will always surprise you" – Professor Laura Lundy on the unparalleled insights of young voices.
Journey into the heart of children's rights with Laura-Jane Jones and Professor Laura Lundy, celebrated for her internationally acclaimed Lundy Model and her work with organisations like the UN and UNICEF.
Tune in for practical tips and strategies every coach needs to truly empower and engage young people. Learn how, by respecting their rights – from giving them a voice and seeking their opinions to allowing them to lead sessions – you can enhance the sporting experience. Through Laura’s insights, discover the power of genuinely letting every child #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 4
“For 99% of kids, it's not about helping them become an athlete, but a better person” – Nick Levett on leaving a lasting impact
Tune in to a must-listen episode with Nick Levett, a grassroots football coach who understands that coaching is more than just shaping athletes – it's about nurturing better individuals. Boasting over 25 years of experience with roles such as 'National Manager for Youth Football' at the FA, Head of Coaching at UK Coaching, and positions at a Premier League club, Nick's journey is rich with insights.
Join Laura-Jane Jones in this captivating episode as Nick delves into co-creating with children, involving parents, and the magic of rolling out engaging games. Invaluable for children's coaches from all sports, it’s packed with practical tips to make sessions more enjoyable and ensure children can't wait to come back for more. Coaches, immerse yourself in a mix of hands-on experience and strategies, ensuring every child gets to #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 5
“One of the kids asked for more crocodiles in the session” – Sion Kitson on embracing children’s creativity in sport
As one of the most passionate grassroots supporters of our campaign, Sion shares his coaching tales of what happens when you embrace children’s creativity, the profound impact of the child-first philosophy, and the importance of the Play Their Way community.
For coaches keen to amplify their impact, this episode offers a lens into a world where children lead, learn, and passionately #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 6
“Young people are the experts in our own needs” – Jemima Browning on truly inclusive coaching
Jemima shares her story of founding the Tadcaster Stingrays, having seen the lack of opportunities for her brother Will, who has Downs Syndrome. This episode is packed with personal experience and thought-provoking advice on how to champion every young person’s needs and experiences in sport and physical activity by respecting them as the experts on themselves.
For coaches who are keen to create truly inclusive environments for children, this episode offers a roadmap to help you #PlayTheirWay!
Episode 7
“Being kind isn’t a soft thing; kindness has teeth” – Justyn Price on community in coaching
Justyn discusses how he came to the realisation that “we can’t be in a world where children can’t play if they want to” after his son couldn’t find a football club to join, and about his journey to setting up an inclusive, child-first club for his son and other children in the local community, The Hawks. If you want to be reminded why you got into coaching in the first place, this is for you!
Episode 8
“It's about giving young people free time, so they can just breathe” – Michael Pusey MBE (CK Flash) on the importance of free play in sporting environments
CK talks about the importance of free play in sporting environments, of treating each young person as an individual and connecting with young people through fun and playfulness.
For coaches keen to connect with diverse groups of young people, this episode offers a rousing call to build bridges and #PlayTheirWay.
Episode 9
“All the best games are designed by children” – David Baird on the innovation of co-creation
David is an experienced coach who is passionate about children’s growth and participation, so much so that he created a concept and penned a book called Scoreboard Soccer, which is a way to engage children in football through games which can be co-created or invented by children and young people.
If you’re looking for new ways to encourage children to take the lead in their own play, this is a great place to start.
Episode 10
“I have this alternate life where I see myself as an athlete ” – Zoya Zia on why representation and intersectionality matter in child-first coaching
Zoya is the Senior Impact and Evaluation Officer at Chance to Shine, one of the members of the Children’s Coaching Collaborative (17 organisations which drive the Play Their Way movement). Originally from Pakistan and Texas, Zoya has found her place in between. She has an MSc Human Rights and Politics from the London School of Economics, and is interested in the relationship between sport and children's rights worldwide.
If you want to #PlayTheirWay for every child, this episode offers a glimpse into a more inclusive, hopeful future for children’s coaching.
Episode 11
“If you just guess what a young person needs, it can have a devastating impact ” – Poppy and Samuela from UNICEF UK’s Youth Board on the value of young voices
Poppy is a 16-year-old from Fife, with a passion for young people’s mental and physical health and education, as well as upholding the best interests of children. Samuela is 18 years old, with a focus on social issues from mental health to homelessness, and a drive to be the change she wants to see in the world.
If you’re a coach curious about what young people want and need from you in sport, this episode will help you #PlayTheirWay.
Episode 12
“Play can be a dirty word” – Stuart Armstrong on perceptions of play and the creation of the Children’s Coaching Collaborative
Join them for a discussion on how the perception of children’s play has transformed in our society over the past few generations, the role of the coach in child-first coaching and the creation of the Children’s Coaching Collaborative, 17 charities and organisations driving the Play Their Way movement.
Stuart is the Strategic Lead for Coaching and Workforce Transformation, who still finds time to coach at a grassroots level and host The Talent Equation. He is a vocal advocate for child-first coaching and has been a crucial driver of the Play Their Way campaign.
If you want to understand both the origin and the future of the #PlayTheirWay movement, this episode is for you!
Episode 13
“Now I’ve got 100 voices coming at me, and it’s beautiful” – Nicky Harverson on helping young people find their own voices in sport
Nicky is a Physical Activity Specialist (Strategic Lead for Children and Young People) at Active Lives Gloucestershire as well as a cycling coach and Coach Developer. Nicky is passionate about play and has recently been supporting us to launch a pilot programme to support grassroots coaches – stay tuned for more on this!
If you’re looking to up your game, this episode is packed with practical tips to help you #PlayTheirWay!Episode 14
“You don't want to know what I think” – League Leaders on ensuring young people are heard in sport
We're joined by Founder and CEO of League Leaders, Paul Jenkins, as well as young leaders Adbul-Razak Rakhis and Lereece Patrick. They talk about how their positive and negative experiences of sport growing up has shaped their attitudes now, the art of working with young people and the balance of competition and play.
If you want to get inspired on how to build young leaders in sport, this episode is for you!
Episode 15
“If all they need is to talk, that's what we're here for” – Luke Carpenter on why holistic coaching is key to playing their way
Luke Carpenter is a grassroots coach at Valleys Gymnastics, which have been brilliant advocates for the Play Their Way movement. Luke also won the 2023 Community Coach of the Year for Children and Young People at the UK Coaching Awards a couple of weeks ago for his child-first approach to coaching.
If you’re looking for first-hand experience of how to #PlayTheirWay in a holistic way, this episode is for you!
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